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Some Skepticism (comment in "A Critical Discussion of Vinge's Singularity Concept")bears on ↓Machine intelligence improving itself accelerates its capability growth

Hanson, “Some Skepticism (comment in "A Critical Discussion of Vinge's Singularity Concept")” (1998-10) bears on E01. Hanson tests a growth-rate reading of Vinge against growth economics: a one-time intelligence gain gives a one-time jump in output, not faster growth.

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Supporting evidence: primary · 1 source

Date: 1998-10 · publication
Wording attested: 2000-11-17. Earliest retrieved capture of the page; the CDX index was unavailable, so an earlier capture is not excluded.
Role: Context
Register (kind of text): Nonfiction
Missing element: Disputes a link between intelligence and growth rates, not AI improving AI.
Tier: Tier 2. Short-form comment in an online symposium: tier 2 by form under the rule of 2026-10-11/12. Hanson had economist standing by 1998 (see the record of his 1998 journal article); tier 2 follows from the form, not the author.

Scope and limitsHanson's own view; it addresses the economic-growth reading of Vinge's claim. Tier 2. Wording attested from the 2000 capture.

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Some Skepticism (comment in "A Critical Discussion of Vinge's Singularity Concept")

Online symposium of comments on Vernor Vinge's singularity essay · 1998-10

Archived copy, captured 2000-11-17: Some Skepticism (comment in "A Critical Discussion of Vinge's Singularity Concept")

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“The vast economic literature on economic growth offers little support for any simple direct relation between economic growth rates and either intelligence levels or clock speeds.”

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Authors: Robin Hanson
Version: Wayback capture of http://hanson.gmu.edu/vc.html (2000-11-17); compared with the 2001-01-11 capture. Only Hanson's comment is quoted. Capture retrieved 2026-10-08 (SHA-256 e54a679e31374bf4cb71e49287f363be63976a4bb3f7d180e98f89bccd64cf2c). Published version: Hanson, R. (1998, October). Some skepticism. In A critical discussion of Vinge's singularity concept. Extropy Online. Venue as listed in the author's December 2000 vita; the Extropy Online page itself was not retrieved. Hosted on the author's site; the page carries "©1998 by Robin Hanson".
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Accessed: 2026-10-08
Language: English (en)
Archive copy: Open archived copy, captured 2000-11-17: Some Skepticism (comment in "A Critical Discussion of Vinge's Singularity Concept"). An archive copy shows only what the archive retrieved on 2000-11-17. It does not prove what the page said earlier, and it can differ from the copy checked on 2026-10-08.
Attribution: Robin Hanson, “Some Skepticism (comment in "A Critical Discussion of Vinge's Singularity Concept")”, Online symposium of comments on Vernor Vinge's singularity essay, hosted on the author's site; the page carries "©1998 by Robin Hanson", 1998-10.
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Check notes: Candidate pack passage E01-06 (research/economics-mainstream/esoteric). The quotation (26 words) matched the Wayback capture 20001117154900 (SHA-256 e54a679e31374bf4cb71e49287f363be63976a4bb3f7d180e98f89bccd64cf2c) in the preparer's verification of 2026-10-11. It was not re-read in the correction pass of 2026-10-15 or at admission on 2026-10-16, because web.archive.org refused connections from the cloud environment. Admitted on the basis of the cross-family GPT check of 2026-10-15, which retrieved the same capture (Memento timestamp and SHA-256 equal to the recorded ones) and found the quotation matching.

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Date. Copyright line "©1998 by Robin Hanson" at the end of the comment; the author's December 2000 vita (2000-12-05 capture of hanson.gmu.edu/vita.html) lists the discussion as "Extropy Online, Oct. 1998".

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