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Joy's article of 2000 quotes Moravec's Robot and states that Moravec's view is that robots will eventually succeed humans. On humans gradually replacing themselves with robotic technology by downloading, a prospect it connects with Hillis and Kurzweil, Joy writes that it seems to him far more likely that the robots would in no sense be human children and that on this path humanity may well be lost. Copy claim link
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Date 2000-04 · publication Records dated 2000 → Role Earliest located, Contesting Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement Engages a premise. Disputes the premise that successor machines would be human children or descendants, on which the acceptability of succession rests. Scope and limits Joy contests the acceptability of succession; he does not dispute that it could happen. The passage on "our children" concerns downloading, which the preceding paragraph connects with Hillis and with Kurzweil's The Age of Spiritual Machines, not with Moravec.
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Why the Future Doesn't Need Us ↗ Wired (wired.com) · 2000-04
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Source excerpt “Moravec's view is that the robots will eventually succeed us—that humans clearly face extinction.” Location in source Paragraph after the extended quotation from Robot
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Source details and check notes Authors Bill Joy Version The essay as served by Wired at wired.com, which dates the page 1 April 2000 for the magazine issue of April 2000; the deck above the essay is the magazine's. Its wording can change; earlier wording is not authenticated. Retrieved at admission on 2026-10-31 (SHA-256 05e86cb7b852e1bc4d9c9517652bd261a4e7e4de3a3b5df90f8f02fb31ae568e). Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-31 Language English (en) Attribution Bill Joy, “Why the Future Doesn't Need Us”, 2000-04. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage, machine succession, scale and acceleration (research/heterodox-thought). The quotation (14 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-31. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. Joy's reading of Moravec, not Moravec's wording. A cross-family machine check (2026-11-01, item 15) classified the record’s passage blind and reached the same stance. No human editorial review. primary source Supports the claim
Why the Future Doesn't Need Us ↗ Wired (wired.com) · 2000-04
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Source excerpt “It seems to me far more likely that a robotic existence would not be like a human one in any sense that we understand, that the robots would in no sense be our children, that on this path our humanity may well be lost.” Location in source Paragraph beginning "But if we are downloaded into our technology" (after the paragraph beginning "A second dream of robotics")
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Source details and check notes Authors Bill Joy Version The essay as served by Wired at wired.com, which dates the page 1 April 2000 for the magazine issue of April 2000; the deck above the essay is the magazine's. Its wording can change; earlier wording is not authenticated. Retrieved at admission on 2026-10-31 (SHA-256 05e86cb7b852e1bc4d9c9517652bd261a4e7e4de3a3b5df90f8f02fb31ae568e). Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-31 Language English (en) Attribution Bill Joy, “Why the Future Doesn't Need Us”, 2000-04. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage, machine succession, scale and acceleration (research/heterodox-thought). The quotation (44 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-31. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. A cross-family machine check (2026-11-01, item 15) classified the record’s passage blind and reached the same stance. No human editorial review. Status and meaning Editorial status. Machine-checked . Machines found this record and checked it against its sources; no person accepted it individually. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Wired 8.04, April 2000.
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