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Taylor's review of 2024 states that she rejects orthogonality “as stated by Bostrom” and is “inclined to agree” with Land that struggle toward intelligence optimization is “immanently ‘good’”, while finding his “Stupid Monsters” argument not strong against the theoretical possibility of a “VNM paperclipper”. Copy claim link
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Date 2024-09-16 · publication Records dated 2024 → Role Context Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Missing element Taylor rejects a formulation of orthogonality and partly agrees with Land, but also holds that agents separating fact from value remain theoretically possible; she does not state that the increase of intelligence is the end that advanced machine intelligence pursues or should pursue. Scope and limits Records the reviewer's own qualified positions in 2024, including her disagreement with one of Land's arguments.
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Book review: Xenosystems ↗ Unstable Ontology (Jessica Taylor's blog); the post says it was also posted on LessWrong · 2024-09-16
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Source excerpt “And, after thinking about it more, I think orthogonality is a bad metaphor and I reject it as stated by Bostrom, for technical reasons I’ll get to.” Location in source Introductory section, paragraph beginning 'I have complex thoughts'
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Source details and check notes Authors Jessica Taylor Version Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-31 (SHA-256 b526d3872d55a148171ec535183d7987b11f178ba5b394d2a88a8f739082f0bc). Blog post dated September 16, 2024, with a second date September 17, 2024 shown (update). Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-31 Language English (en) Attribution Jessica Taylor, “Book review: Xenosystems”, 2024-09-16. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage, machine succession, scale and acceleration (research/heterodox-thought). The quotation (27 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-31. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. A cross-family machine check (2026-11-01, item 74) re-read the record’s source and agreed with its stance; its corrections were applied at admission. No human editorial review. primary source Supports the claim
Book review: Xenosystems ↗ Unstable Ontology (Jessica Taylor's blog); the post says it was also posted on LessWrong · 2024-09-16
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Source excerpt “Even the dimmest, most confused struggle in the direction of intelligence optimization is immanently ‘good’ (self-improving). If it wasn’t we might as well all give up now”. I’m currently inclined to agree.” Location in source Section 'Orthogonality versus Will-to-Think', paragraph on 'Intelligence and the Good'
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Source details and check notes Authors Jessica Taylor Version Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-31 (SHA-256 b526d3872d55a148171ec535183d7987b11f178ba5b394d2a88a8f739082f0bc). Blog post dated September 16, 2024, with a second date September 17, 2024 shown (update). Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-31 Language English (en) Attribution Jessica Taylor, “Book review: Xenosystems”, 2024-09-16. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage, machine succession, scale and acceleration (research/heterodox-thought). The quotation (32 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-31. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. The inner quotation is Land's wording as Taylor quotes it; the last sentence is Taylor's. A cross-family machine check (2026-11-01, item 74) re-read the record’s source and agreed with its stance; its corrections were applied at admission. No human editorial review. primary source Context only
Book review: Xenosystems ↗ Unstable Ontology (Jessica Taylor's blog); the post says it was also posted on LessWrong · 2024-09-16
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Source excerpt “I don’t find this to be a strong argument against the theoretical possibility of a VNM paperclipper, to be clear.” Location in source Same section, paragraph after 'Stupid Monsters'
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Source details and check notes Authors Jessica Taylor Version Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-31 (SHA-256 b526d3872d55a148171ec535183d7987b11f178ba5b394d2a88a8f739082f0bc). Blog post dated September 16, 2024, with a second date September 17, 2024 shown (update). Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-31 Language English (en) Attribution Jessica Taylor, “Book review: Xenosystems”, 2024-09-16. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage, machine succession, scale and acceleration (research/heterodox-thought). The quotation (20 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-31. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. Taylor's disagreement with Land's 'Stupid Monsters' argument. A cross-family machine check (2026-11-01, item 74) re-read the record’s source and agreed with its stance; its corrections were applied at admission. No human editorial review. Status and meaning Editorial status. Machine-checked . Machines found this record and checked it against its sources; no person accepted it individually. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
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