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Hanson's post of 24 July 2014 argues that a 'local explosion', in which one small project's machine goes within weeks from weaker than a human to able to take over the world, is implausible, because one project could not innovate across thousands of software modules vastly faster than the rest of the world. Copy claim link
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Date 2014-07-24 · publication Records dated 2014 → Role Contesting Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement Engages a premise. It disputes the premise that one small project could improve software across the full range of mental modules faster than the rest of the world. Scope and limits The post contests the single-project, weeks-long form of the proposition; it accepts that machines may eventually do most mental tasks better and may greatly raise economic growth rates. Hanson's earlier posts in the debate with Yudkowsky (2008–2013) are recorded separately.
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I Still Don't Get Foom ↗ Overcoming Bias (Substack copy of the blog; requested at the old address overcomingbias.com/2014/07/30855.html) · 2014-07-24
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Source excerpt “a single machine, built by a single project using only a tiny fraction of world resources, goes in a short time (e.g., weeks) from being so weak that it is usually beat by a single human … to so powerful that it easily takes over the entire world.” Location in source Third paragraph, beginning "“Intelligence” just means"
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Source details and check notes Authors Robin Hanson Version Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29 (SHA-256 4b4171f11c16517b2f9c0a6654b97c5c07b4e70fc75424f4f447c4a8aa97478c). Current Substack page of the post, dated 2014-07-24 in its metadata, with an addition dated "5Nov" in the text; retrieved 2026-10-29. The cross-family check retrieved it again on 2026-10-31; the bytes differ, and the check compared the quoted passages. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-29 Language English (en) Attribution Robin Hanson, “I Still Don't Get Foom”, 2014-07-24. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage, arguments about catastrophic risk from advanced AI (research/risk-debate). The quotation (47 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. No human editorial review. primary source Supports the claim
I Still Don't Get Foom ↗ Overcoming Bias (Substack copy of the blog; requested at the old address overcomingbias.com/2014/07/30855.html) · 2014-07-24
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Source excerpt “So I can’t see a plausible way one project could increase its intelligence vastly faster than could the rest of the world.” Location in source Paragraph beginning "Similarly, while you might imagine"
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Source details and check notes Authors Robin Hanson Version Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29 (SHA-256 4b4171f11c16517b2f9c0a6654b97c5c07b4e70fc75424f4f447c4a8aa97478c). Current Substack page of the post, dated 2014-07-24 in its metadata, with an addition dated "5Nov" in the text; retrieved 2026-10-29. The cross-family check retrieved it again on 2026-10-31; the bytes differ, and the check compared the quoted passages. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-29 Language English (en) Attribution Robin Hanson, “I Still Don't Get Foom”, 2014-07-24. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage, arguments about catastrophic risk from advanced AI (research/risk-debate). The quotation (22 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. No human editorial review. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
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