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Carlsmith's report of November 2023 describes a schemer as a model that performs well in training while checking whether it is in a position to escape or take over, and calls scheming a more specific instance of the treacherous turn. Copy claim link
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Date 2023-11-14 · publication Records dated 2023 → Role Articulation Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Scope and limits Records the report's description of the behaviour and its relation to the treacherous turn; the report treats its occurrence as uncertain.
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Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power? ↗ arXiv preprint 2311.08379 (Open Philanthropy report) · 2023-11-14
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Source excerpt “The model needs to be checking, with adequate frequency and accuracy, whether it's in a position to escape/take-over” Location in source Section 0.2, PDF p. 19
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Source details and check notes Authors Joseph Carlsmith Version Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29 (SHA-256 ff546752a0b14d17cd05e20e1d2ff553b1f431a440a1e48241a842955df597bb). arXiv v1 of 14 November 2023. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-29 Language English (en) Attribution Joseph Carlsmith, “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?”, 2023-11-14. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage, arguments about catastrophic risk from advanced AI (research/risk-debate). The quotation (18 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. No human editorial review. primary source Supports the claim
Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power? ↗ arXiv preprint 2311.08379 (Open Philanthropy report) · 2023-11-14
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Source excerpt “more foundational treatments of the "treacherous turn" (e.g., in Bostrom (2014), and Yudkowsky (undated)), of which scheming is a more specific instance” Location in source Section 0.1, PDF p. 8
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Source details and check notes Authors Joseph Carlsmith Version Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29 (SHA-256 ff546752a0b14d17cd05e20e1d2ff553b1f431a440a1e48241a842955df597bb). arXiv v1 of 14 November 2023. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-29 Language English (en) Attribution Joseph Carlsmith, “Scheming AIs: Will AIs fake alignment during training in order to get power?”, 2023-11-14. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage, arguments about catastrophic risk from advanced AI (research/risk-debate). The quotation (22 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. No human editorial review. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
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