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Piantadosi and Hill's paper of August 2022 replies to Bender and Koller's paper of 2020, which it names and whose octopus test it discusses.

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Meaning without reference in large language models → cites → Climbing towards NLU: On Meaning, Form, and Understanding in the Age of Data

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Meaning without reference in large language modelscites ↓Climbing towards NLU: On Meaning, Form, and Understanding in the Age of Data

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Meaning without reference in large language models

arXiv preprint 2208.02957 · 2022-08-05

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“Bender & Koller's position is that no amount of predictive linguistic savvy can give models that are trained on text alone the knowledge of reference”

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Authors: Steven T. Piantadosi; Felix Hill
Version: Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29 (SHA-256 2696790ec6304619048169129619e6da71cb6617a144ea5379ebefa937bb0696). arXiv v1 of 5 August 2022. The cross-family check retrieved it again on 2026-10-31, with the same bytes.
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Attribution: Steven T. Piantadosi, Felix Hill, “Meaning without reference in large language models”, 2022-08-05.
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