Claim · 2019-12-03 · publication · Stated in source · Supported

Turner's paper of 3 December 2019 (arXiv v1) cites Pinker's 2015 response by title and states that its theorems contradict the position it expresses.

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Optimal Farsighted Agents Tend to Seek Power → cites → Thinking Does Not Imply Subjugating

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Optimal Farsighted Agents Tend to Seek Powercites ↓Thinking Does Not Imply Subjugating

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Date: 2019-12-03 · publication Records dated 2019 →

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Optimal Farsighted Agents Tend to Seek Power

arXiv (1912.01683v1) · 2019-12-03

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“Pinker [2015] argued that “thinking does not imply subjugating”.”

Location in source Introduction, PDF p. 1

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Source details and check notes

Authors: Alexander Matt Turner
Version: Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29 (SHA-256 6f5ea4130388737fae9e58f3d2dd3c3aaebf330c12cc2cb430b5f121e49dccd6). arXiv v1 of 3 December 2019, single-authored; later versions (to v10) are retitled "Optimal Policies Tend to Seek Power" with co-authors and were not compared.
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Language: English (en)
Attribution: Alexander Matt Turner, “Optimal Farsighted Agents Tend to Seek Power”, 2019-12-03.
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Check notes: Candidate pack passage, arguments about catastrophic risk from advanced AI (research/risk-debate). The quotation (9 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. No human editorial review.

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Optimal Farsighted Agents Tend to Seek Power

arXiv (1912.01683v1) · 2019-12-03

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Source excerpt

“We put the matter to formal investigation, and find that their positions are contradicted by reasonable interpretations of our theorems.”

Location in source Introduction, PDF p. 1

How it was read Retrieved directly from the publisher

Machine-checked · 2026-10-31

Source details and check notes

Authors: Alexander Matt Turner
Version: Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29 (SHA-256 6f5ea4130388737fae9e58f3d2dd3c3aaebf330c12cc2cb430b5f121e49dccd6). arXiv v1 of 3 December 2019, single-authored; later versions (to v10) are retitled "Optimal Policies Tend to Seek Power" with co-authors and were not compared.
Canonical address: Open the canonical source ↗
Accessed: 2026-10-29
Language: English (en)
Attribution: Alexander Matt Turner, “Optimal Farsighted Agents Tend to Seek Power”, 2019-12-03.
Reuse: No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution.
Check notes: Candidate pack passage, arguments about catastrophic risk from advanced AI (research/risk-debate). The quotation (20 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. No human editorial review.

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