Claim · 2002-05-19 · publication · Stated in source · Supported

Goertzel's SL4 message of 2002-05-19, titled 'Complexity of AGI', uses 'AGI' for a general artificial mind whose required complexity he compares with his Novamente design.

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Complexity of AGI → uses the name →

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Claim and evidence

Complexity of AGIuses the name ↓

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Supporting evidence: primary · 1 source

Date: 2002-05-19 · publication Records dated 2002 →

Scope and limitsThe earliest 'AGI' in the SL4 subject lines scanned (2000-02 to 2002-06); message bodies before it were not searched. The message does not expand the abbreviation.

The evidence 01

primary sourceSupports the claim

Complexity of AGI (SL4 mailing list)

SL4 mailing list archive (sl4.org) · 2002-05-19

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Source excerpt

“I have thought a little about your intuition that an AGI needs to be 1-2 orders of magnitude more complex than Novamente.”

Location in source Message body, first paragraph

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Machine-checked · 2026-10-31

Source details and check notes

Authors: Ben Goertzel
Version: Retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29 (SHA-256 8c341c9d008bea42292a2b94bc804d1483f81d3cde555925f4dff239ac4e93d7). Hypermail archive page as served; header 'Date: Sun May 19 2002 - 14:08:36 MDT'.
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Accessed: 2026-10-29
Language: English (en)
Attribution: Ben Goertzel, “Complexity of AGI (SL4 mailing list)”, 2002-05-19.
Reuse: No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution.
Check notes: Candidate pack passage, Kinds of AI and technical history (research/technical-history). The quotation (22 words) matched the text retrieved for the candidate pack on 2026-10-29. Matching ignored differences of whitespace, case, quotation marks, dashes, PDF line-break hyphens and Unicode compatibility forms, so the source’s typography can differ. A cross-family machine check (31 October 2026, item 121) re-read the record’s sources and found that they support what the record states. No human editorial review.

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Record ID th-term-agi-sl4-2002-goertzel