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Franzen’s 1992 reply says people often infer understanding from sparse or vacuous responses, and that a Turing test is only a test when conducted by someone who knows what they are doing. Copy claim link
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Date 1992-02-11 · publication Role Contesting Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Scope of the passage Disputes the inference from a badly run test to the insufficiency of a competent one. Engagement Engages a premise. Gives a reason against the premise that the competition’s result shows behavioural tests to be misleading: a test conducted by people who do not know what they are doing is not the test. Scope and limits A defence of competent testing, not a claim that these results show intelligence.
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Re: Real-life Turing test (Usenet message) ↗ comp.ai.philosophy (Usenet) · 1992-02-11
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Paraphrase People often ascribe understanding or intelligence on the basis of well-timed grunts, nods or drivel; the test is not a test unless conducted by someone who knows what they are doing.
Location in source Message body, the two paragraphs outside the quoted Rosenfelder text
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Source details and check notes Authors Torkel Franzen Version Archive member feb.92/2478 of 92_feb.tgz, retrieved 2026-10-06 with the hash recorded by the pre-1996 candidate search. The header date is as preserved; there is no independent capture of the message. CMU Artificial Intelligence Repository archive. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-06 Language English (en) Attribution Torkel Franzen, "Re: Real-life Turing test", comp.ai.philosophy, 1992-02-11. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Paraphrase checked against the archive member; the message is too short for a longer quotation. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Date header 11 Feb 92 10:29:03 GMT; the reply cites Rosenfelder’s message of 10 February.
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