Choose an institution to see its records and dossier, or choose a topic.
Through year 2027 · all records, including scheduled dates 2026 2025 2024 2023 2022 2021 2020 2019 2018 2017 2016 2015 2014 2013 2012 2011 2010 2008 2005 1965 Show Organisations and infrastructure All types Organisation Person Document Concept Infrastructure Public body Reset filters
94 people, organisations and other records · 122 relationships · 34 claims about a valueEverything recorded up to the chosen year, whether or not still in effect · Undated records included
Claim and evidence Close ×
The SL4 message “Re: supergoal stability” (2002-05-03) contests Y01. Replying to Wei Dai in a thread on supergoal stability, he says a non-Friendly mind will keep whatever goals it had when it first became able to protect its goal system from modification, and that only the CFAI semantics would keep goals as the programmers understood them. Copy claim link
Copy claim reference
Machine-checked, not reviewed by an editor Stated in source Supported
Supporting evidence: primary · 1 source
Date 2002-05-03 · publication Role Contesting Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement States the contrary. Under the message-level rule, the passage states the contrary conclusion without giving a reason against the premise that a capable goal-directed system will not act to prevent its own shutdown or modification, and a shutdown or correction mechanism can simply be added to it, even when read with its message or dialogue turn. Scope and limits Premise addressed: A capable goal-directed system will not act to prevent its own shutdown or modification, and a shutdown or correction mechanism can simply be added to it. Hedged ('It currently looks to me'). Concerns resistance to goal modification, not shutdown as such.
The evidence 01 primary source Supports the claim
Re: supergoal stability (SL4 mailing list) ↗ SL4 mailing list · 2002-05-03
Copy source reference
Cite the original source Cite the original document, not Selekoa. Check these details against it.
Copy APA
Download BibTeX Download RIS Download CSL-JSON
Source excerpt “It currently looks to me like any mind-in-general that is *not* Friendly will automatically resist all modifications of the goal system, to the limit of its ability to detect modifications.” Location in source message body, paragraph beginning 'It currently looks to me like any mind-in-general'
Machine-checked · 2026-10-07
Source details and check notes Authors Eliezer Yudkowsky Version Archive HTML as served, retrieved 2026-10-07 (SHA-256 7669bc17ecbbc641fb8377adc6b034b6cec911c527d0a2be683ed53c7a3ee06c); quoted lines excluded when reading the author’s text. The served archive shows later URL rewriting and does not authenticate historical bytes. Archive at sl4.org. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-07 Language English (en) Attribution Eliezer Yudkowsky, “Re: supergoal stability”, SL4 mailing list, 2002-05-03. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage T01-s3. The quotation (30 words) matched the retrieved expression (SHA-256 7669bc17ecbbc641fb8377adc6b034b6cec911c527d0a2be683ed53c7a3ee06c) when checked on 2026-10-07. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Archive author index lists the message as "Fri May 03 2002 - 16:38:46 MDT" under "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky".
Record ID yk-y01-sl4-2002-05-03-yudkowsky-0205-3551-c