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The SL4 message “Re: [agi] Two draft papers: AI and existential risk; heuristics and biases” (2006-06-06) contests Y01. Replying to Ben Goertzel (thread cross-posted from the AGI list), he criticises a plan to experiment with AGI without emergency shutdown features or a published schedule of when they become necessary, comparing it to an investor who set no point at which to take alarm and sell. Copy claim link
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Date 2006-06-06 · publication Role Contesting Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement Engages a premise. Under the message-level rule, the passage, read with the paragraph, message or dialogue turn it belongs to, gives a reason against the premise that we will recognise the moment when it has become dangerous enough to press the switch. Scope and limits Premise addressed: We will recognise the moment when it has become dangerous enough to press the switch. He argues for building emergency shutdown features in advance; what he rejects is relying on recognising the moment without a pre-committed threshold. Addressed to Ben Goertzel; the same message asks for built-in "controlled ascent / emergency shutdown" features, so it does not dismiss shutdown mechanisms.
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Re: [agi] Two draft papers: AI and existential risk; heuristics and biases (SL4 mailing list) ↗ SL4 mailing list · 2006-06-06
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Source excerpt “you haven't even given us any reason to believe that, if you got unexpectedly powerful results out of an AGI, you wouldn't just send out for champagne, … proceed thus until, unnoticed, you pass the unmarked and unremarkable spot that was your very last chance to turn back.” Location in source message body, paragraph beginning 'There's similarly the case chronicled by Nicholas Nassim Taleb'
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Source details and check notes Authors Eliezer Yudkowsky Version Archive HTML as served, retrieved 2026-10-07 (SHA-256 c2e944580a586039db6294e2d5b2c4fffaf9aefcaf50965480ecd12788934b58); quoted lines excluded when reading the author’s text. The served archive shows later URL rewriting and does not authenticate historical bytes. Archive at sl4.org. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-07 Language English (en) Attribution Eliezer Yudkowsky, “Re: [agi] Two draft papers: AI and existential risk; heuristics and biases”, SL4 mailing list, 2006-06-06. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage T01-s5. The quotation (48 words) matched the retrieved expression (SHA-256 c2e944580a586039db6294e2d5b2c4fffaf9aefcaf50965480ecd12788934b58) when checked on 2026-10-07. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Archive author index lists the message as "Tue Jun 06 2006 - 23:19:49 MDT" under "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky".
Record ID yk-y01-sl4-2006-06-06-yudkowsky-0606-15174-c