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The SL4 message “Re: Investing in FAI research: now vs. later.” (2008-02-11) contests Y07. Replying to Vladimir Nesov in a thread on investing in Friendly AI research now or later, he argues by analogy with AI-completeness that having an AI build Friendly AI from an English request is as hard as Friendly AI itself. Copy claim link
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Date 2008-02-11 · publication Role Contesting Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement Engages a premise. Under the message-level rule, the passage, read with the paragraph, message or dialogue turn it belongs to, gives a reason against the premise that an AI weak enough to be safe is strong enough to solve alignment. Scope and limits Premise addressed: An AI weak enough to be safe is strong enough to solve alignment. Quotation shortened to respect the ~10% cap for a short message.
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Re: Investing in FAI research: now vs. later. (SL4 mailing list) ↗ SL4 mailing list · 2008-02-11
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Source excerpt “an AI that knows what you "really mean" … is FAI-complete” Location in source message body, paragraph beginning 'Similarly, building an AI that knows'
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Source details and check notes Authors Eliezer Yudkowsky Version Archive HTML as served, retrieved 2026-10-07 (SHA-256 4631feaa749d8a507923a5034bc31920e3eb3a811f09420e70ab8605bca03626); quoted lines excluded when reading the author’s text. The served archive shows later URL rewriting and does not authenticate historical bytes. Archive at sl4.org. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-07 Language English (en) Attribution Eliezer Yudkowsky, “Re: Investing in FAI research: now vs. later.”, SL4 mailing list, 2008-02-11. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage T07-s2. The quotation (11 words; trimmed 2026-10-13 from 14 words) matched the retrieved expression (SHA-256 4631feaa749d8a507923a5034bc31920e3eb3a811f09420e70ab8605bca03626) when checked on 2026-10-07. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Archive author index lists the message as "Mon Feb 11 2008 - 15:52:05 MST" under "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky".
Record ID yk-y07-sl4-2008-02-11-yudkowsky-0802-17621-c