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The Extropians message “Re: Paths to Uploading” (1999-01-06) contests Y08. Replying to Anders Sandberg on paths to uploading, he argues that the forces in a Singularity are vast and dominated by positive feedback, so there will be no humanly observable intermediate period of superintelligent action. Copy claim link
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Date 1999-01-06 · publication Role Contesting, Earliest located Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement States the contrary. Under the message-level rule, the passage states the contrary conclusion without giving a reason against the premise that there will be a recognisable, consensus-forming signal in time to act, even when read with its message or dialogue turn. Scope and limits Premise addressed: There will be a recognisable, consensus-forming signal in time to act. About the speed of superintelligent action, not about warning signs or consensus as such.
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Re: Paths to Uploading (Extropians mailing list) ↗ Extropians mailing list · 1999-01-06
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Source excerpt “Likewise, the first SI timescale that isn't too slow to notice will be too fast to notice.” Location in source message body, paragraph beginning 'Likewise, the first SI timescale'
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Source details and check notes Authors Eliezer Yudkowsky Version Archive HTML as served, retrieved 2026-10-07 (SHA-256 54aacc749efff72625a9d729962739c62cd48679b2fd55c273d150817ee94296); quoted lines excluded when reading the author’s text. The served archive shows later URL rewriting and does not authenticate historical bytes. Archive at extropians.weidai.com. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-07 Language English (en) Attribution Eliezer Yudkowsky, “Re: Paths to Uploading”, Extropians mailing list, 1999-01-06. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage T08-e1. The quotation (17 words) matched the retrieved expression (SHA-256 54aacc749efff72625a9d729962739c62cd48679b2fd55c273d150817ee94296) when checked on 2026-10-07. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Archive author index lists the message as "1999-01-06" under "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky".
Record ID yk-y08-extropians-1999-01-06-yudkowsky-0160-c