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The Extropians message “Re: Zones of Thought (was Zindell's _The Wild_)” (1996-11-13) contests Y10. Replying to a correspondent (quoted in angle brackets) who allowed for intermediate levels of mind such as Jupiter-sized brains, he asks why Powers would reach an intermediate level and stop, and states that smarter beings make still smarter beings. Copy claim link
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Date 1996-11-13 · publication Role Contesting, Earliest located Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement States the contrary. Under the message-level rule, the passage states the contrary conclusion without giving a reason against the premise that returns to reinvesting cognitive gains in further cognitive improvement diminish, even when read with its message or dialogue turn. Scope and limits Premise addressed: Returns to reinvesting cognitive gains in further cognitive improvement diminish. States the contrary conclusion without engaging a diminishing-returns argument; that engagement follows three days later (his Extropians message of 1996-11-16). Message predates the page date given for 'Staring into the Singularity' (created 1996-11-18).
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Re: Zones of Thought (was Zindell's _The Wild_) (Extropians mailing list) ↗ Extropians mailing list · 1996-11-13
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Source excerpt “The essence of the Singularity is that a smarter being has an increased capacity to invent still smarter beings; that's why everything goes to infinity.” Location in source message body, paragraph beginning 'One hundred percent absolutely correct!'
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Source details and check notes Authors Eliezer Yudkowsky Version Archive HTML as served, retrieved 2026-10-07 (SHA-256 7240bebd2c05b2b45fad88e6fe783a6ca2ba11e3ae753bda035be91ceb27cb1e); quoted lines excluded when reading the author’s text. The served archive shows later URL rewriting and does not authenticate historical bytes. Archive at extropians.weidai.com. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-07 Language English (en) Attribution Eliezer Yudkowsky, “Re: Zones of Thought (was Zindell's _The Wild_)”, Extropians mailing list, 1996-11-13. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage T10-e1. The quotation (25 words) matched the retrieved expression (SHA-256 7240bebd2c05b2b45fad88e6fe783a6ca2ba11e3ae753bda035be91ceb27cb1e) when checked on 2026-10-07. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Archive author index lists the message as "Wed, 13 Nov 1996 18:57:33 -0600" under "Eliezer Yudkowsky".
Record ID yk-y10-extropians-1996-11-13-yudkowsky-2941-c