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The SL4 message “Re: Threats to the Singularity.” (2002-06-23) contests Y19. Replying to Ben Goertzel, he separates deliberate extermination, which he thinks unlikely, from indifference, which he says would very probably have the same result. Copy claim link
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Date 2002-06-23 · publication Role Contesting Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement States the contrary. Under the message-level rule, the passage states the contrary conclusion without giving a reason against the premise that an AI would harm humans only out of hostility, even when read with its message or dialogue turn. Scope and limits Premise addressed: An AI would harm humans only out of hostility. Same passage as recorded for ‘A superintelligence would leave Earth alone’ (Y18). The argument that indifference equates to extermination is attributed to Eugen Leitl and endorsed; Leitl's message is not in the cache. Earlier than ‘Artificial Intelligence as a Positive and Negative Factor in Global Risk’ (2008). Quotation shortened to respect the ~10% cap for a short message.
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Re: Threats to the Singularity. (SL4 mailing list) ↗ SL4 mailing list · 2002-06-23
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Source excerpt “extremely unlikely … exterminate us deliberately … indifference very probably equates to extermination.” Location in source message body, paragraph beginning 'Ben, it is extremely unlikely that Powers'
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Source details and check notes Authors Eliezer Yudkowsky Version Archive HTML as served, retrieved 2026-10-07 (SHA-256 b33257954ad3d0323662b61808df93cd39decfb44b6833d3ee2885d25c37f8de); quoted lines excluded when reading the author’s text. The served archive shows later URL rewriting and does not authenticate historical bytes. Archive at sl4.org. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-07 Language English (en) Attribution Eliezer Yudkowsky, “Re: Threats to the Singularity.”, SL4 mailing list, 2002-06-23. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage T19-s1. The quotation (13 words; trimmed 2026-10-13 from 17 words) matched the retrieved expression (SHA-256 b33257954ad3d0323662b61808df93cd39decfb44b6833d3ee2885d25c37f8de) when checked on 2026-10-07. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Archive author index lists the message as "Sun Jun 23 2002 - 08:16:52 MDT" under "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky".
Record ID yk-y19-sl4-2002-06-23-yudkowsky-0206-4208-c