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The SL4 message “Re: UCaRtMaAI paper” (2007-11-24) contests Y24. Replying to Tim Freeman, who argued against waiting until we know what we are doing because other AGI projects are proceeding without concern for Friendliness, he says that doing better than competitors does not count. Copy claim link
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Date 2007-11-24 · publication Role Contesting, Earliest located Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement Engages a premise. Under the message-level rule, the passage, read with the paragraph, message or dialogue turn it belongs to, gives a reason against the premise that racing to be first improves the outcome. Scope and limits Premise addressed: Racing to be first improves the outcome. In the next paragraph he describes the 'someone has to develop AI eventually' rationale as what 'the Bad Guys' say. Quotation shortened to respect the ~10% cap for a short message.
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Re: UCaRtMaAI paper (SL4 mailing list) ↗ SL4 mailing list · 2007-11-24
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Source excerpt “It doesn't matter if someone else does worse.” Location in source message body, paragraph beginning 'Building an AI is pass-fail. You…'
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Source details and check notes Authors Eliezer Yudkowsky Version Archive HTML as served, retrieved 2026-10-07 (SHA-256 2c461930b012e60c76515f2def69dd1c3a92f282994b923b0d890a6f3244cae3); quoted lines excluded when reading the author’s text. The served archive shows later URL rewriting and does not authenticate historical bytes. Archive at sl4.org. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-07 Language English (en) Attribution Eliezer Yudkowsky, “Re: UCaRtMaAI paper”, SL4 mailing list, 2007-11-24. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage T24-s4. The quotation (8 words; trimmed 2026-10-13 from 14 words) matched the retrieved expression (SHA-256 2c461930b012e60c76515f2def69dd1c3a92f282994b923b0d890a6f3244cae3) when checked on 2026-10-07. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Archive author index lists the message as "Sat Nov 24 2007 - 17:36:29 MST" under "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky".
Record ID yk-y24-sl4-2007-11-24-yudkowsky-0711-17248-c