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The SL4 message “Re: Flight recorders in AIs” (2003-05-22) contests Y25. Replying to a list member who suggested that a sufficiently advanced flight recorder would alert humans to any unFriendly goal, he says monitoring only gives later reviewers a chance to notice a failure and does not prevent it. Copy claim link
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Date 2003-05-22 · publication Role Contesting, Earliest located Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement Engages a premise. Under the message-level rule, the passage, read with the paragraph, message or dialogue turn it belongs to, gives a reason against the premise that seeing what it thinks is enough to make it safe. Scope and limits Premise addressed: Seeing what it thinks is enough to make it safe. Concerns recording and monitoring an AI's internal state, not modern neural-network interpretability. He still defends the recorder as a useful precaution.
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Re: Flight recorders in AIs (SL4 mailing list) ↗ SL4 mailing list · 2003-05-22
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Source excerpt “The flight recorder is not a magical device that automatically notices any humanly conceivable failure of Friendliness before it can do any harm. The function of the flight recorder is not to solve that problem but to smear that problem across time” Location in source message body, paragraph beginning 'The flight recorder is not a…'
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Source details and check notes Authors Eliezer Yudkowsky Version Archive HTML as served, retrieved 2026-10-07 (SHA-256 5985184ca685210c3de1fbd6e2ca3a67ecd370b08a2f40c35093cd3dc89463fd); quoted lines excluded when reading the author’s text. The served archive shows later URL rewriting and does not authenticate historical bytes. Archive at sl4.org. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-07 Language English (en) Attribution Eliezer Yudkowsky, “Re: Flight recorders in AIs”, SL4 mailing list, 2003-05-22. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage T25-s2. The quotation (42 words) matched the retrieved expression (SHA-256 5985184ca685210c3de1fbd6e2ca3a67ecd370b08a2f40c35093cd3dc89463fd) when checked on 2026-10-07. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Archive author index lists the message as "Thu May 22 2003 - 02:42:16 MDT" under "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky".
Record ID yk-y25-sl4-2003-05-22-yudkowsky-0305-6783-c