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The SL4 message “Re: Get it right the first time (Was: )” (2000-09-17) contests Y27. Concluding his reply to xgl on whether a confined seed AI could escape, he says that containment cannot be relied on and that the AI must be built correctly from the start. Copy claim link
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Date 2000-09-17 · publication Role Contesting, Earliest located Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement Engages a premise. Under the message-level rule, the passage, read with the paragraph, message or dialogue turn it belongs to, gives a reason against the premise that alignment can be learned by trial and error at the frontier. Scope and limits Premise addressed: Alignment can be learned by trial and error at the frontier. Context is containment, not experimental methodology. It states the contrary of trial-and-error alignment without engaging that argument. The thread subject 'Get it right the first time' was already in use when he replied.
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Re: Get it right the first time (Was: ) (SL4 mailing list) ↗ SL4 mailing list · 2000-09-17
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Source excerpt “Trying to oppose or even constrain a superintelligence is a fool's game. Get It Right The First Time.” Location in source message body, paragraph beginning 'Trying to oppose or even constrain…'
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Source details and check notes Authors Eliezer Yudkowsky Version Archive HTML as served, retrieved 2026-10-07 (SHA-256 8e93327f82451a7044b275f7151ef04bb40bd49d49ed28e9fedaf7d46c710b31); quoted lines excluded when reading the author’s text. The served archive shows later URL rewriting and does not authenticate historical bytes. Archive at sl4.org. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-07 Language English (en) Attribution Eliezer Yudkowsky, “Re: Get it right the first time (Was: )”, SL4 mailing list, 2000-09-17. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage T27-s1. The quotation (18 words) matched the retrieved expression (SHA-256 8e93327f82451a7044b275f7151ef04bb40bd49d49ed28e9fedaf7d46c710b31) when checked on 2026-10-07. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Archive author index lists the message as "Sun Sep 17 2000 - 10:19:16 MDT" under "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky".
Record ID yk-y27-sl4-2000-09-17-yudkowsky-0009-0092-c