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The SL4 message “Re: Floppy take-off” (2001-08-01) contests Y28. Replying to James Higgins on brute-force AI, he argues that with enough hardware the project that finishes first need not be the one that best understands intelligence or Friendliness. Copy claim link
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Date 2001-08-01 · publication Role Contesting, Earliest located Register (kind of text) Nonfiction Engagement Engages a premise. Under the message-level rule, the passage, read with the paragraph, message or dialogue turn it belongs to, gives a reason against the premise that the most advanced projects are the most competent to handle safety. Scope and limits Premise addressed: The most advanced projects are the most competent to handle safety. Conditional on brute-force hardware (nanocomputers). Seven weeks after the sentence in Creating Friendly AI (2001-06-15), it qualifies that sentence's premise without explicitly retracting it. Continues: "even if the latter has a vastly better understanding of the nature of intelligence".
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Re: Floppy take-off (SL4 mailing list) ↗ SL4 mailing list · 2001-08-01
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Source excerpt “On a nanocomputer … uncomprehending researchers can beat a Friendly AI project” Location in source message body, paragraph beginning 'Brute-force AI is a way of…'
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Source details and check notes Authors Eliezer Yudkowsky Version Archive HTML as served, retrieved 2026-10-07 (SHA-256 adeb9a557fd5acff40d640095a942356cd156091d5eb8dc6fd873956ec31f282); quoted lines excluded when reading the author’s text. The served archive shows later URL rewriting and does not authenticate historical bytes. Archive at sl4.org. Canonical address Open the canonical source ↗ Accessed 2026-10-07 Language English (en) Attribution Eliezer Yudkowsky, “Re: Floppy take-off”, SL4 mailing list, 2001-08-01. Reuse No open redistribution licence asserted. Bibliographic metadata, editorial paraphrases and short attributed quotations (at most 50 words each). Recheck terms before wider redistribution. Check notes Candidate pack passage T28-s1. The quotation (12 words; trimmed 2026-10-13 from 17 words) matched the retrieved expression (SHA-256 adeb9a557fd5acff40d640095a942356cd156091d5eb8dc6fd873956ec31f282) when checked on 2026-10-07. Status and meaning Editorial status. Not reviewed by an editor . An exploratory record that no editor has accepted. This status does not say whether a person has read any linked passage. Each evidence record above shows how it was checked.
Relation. A passage of the document disputes the proposition or a premise it depends on. The record documents the text’s position, not who is right.
Date. Archive author index lists the message as "Wed Aug 01 2001 - 19:08:09 MDT" under "Eliezer S. Yudkowsky".
Record ID yk-y28-sl4-2001-08-01-yudkowsky-0108-2031-c